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Posted: Mon, 12/1/09 15:33pm By leeds230 |
Re: Private music teaching
I have just received this reply from ABRSM...
"There are various Theory publications that should help you to prepare for your Grade 5 exam. The Music Theory in Practice Books provide many examples for you to work through, although the majority of these are do not have answers. We also publish past papers, and there are model answers available for these.
The First Steps in Music Theory book is a useful tool, as it has all the information required for each grade up to Grade 5 "at a glance". The AB Guide to Music Theory is more like a text book and goes into slightly more detail."
If there are no solved answers in the graded theory books for ABRSM but there are solved answers in the trinity books then logic would suggest it would be better for someone self-studying to go with trinity - would i be correct in this assumption?
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Posted: Wed, 31/12/08 9:57am By leeds230 |
Re: Private music teaching
Thank you for all of that. I will look into it all further and see how i get on.
Happy New Year!
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Posted: Wed, 31/12/08 9:47am By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
(Plase excuse the typos in the previous responses.) If you get hold of at least one GOOD TEXT BOOK, and cover the Theory units well, then you could directly purchase the Grade 5 Theory WORKBOOK, SOLVE IT AND the SAMPLE/SPECIMEN PAPERS....and you could then appear for the exams.
It is good to have at least one good Theory Text Book...esp if you intend to taking up music teaching. (Books by: Eric Tylor, James Murray Brown, Otto Karolyi, William Lovelock are good.)
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Posted: Wed, 31/12/08 9:40am By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
Pl note: The Trinity Theory of Music WORKBOOKS serve as a Text Book along with solved and unsolved examples.
To work with the ABRSM Workbooks one would need to refer to the AB Guide to Theory of Music (Part I & II). You would need to purchase or have access to the Text Books too. (Howver I am not sure whether the latest editions of the ABRSM workbooks perform the dual function of serving as a Text as well? Pl check)
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Posted: Wed, 31/12/08 9:37am By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
MOST CERTAINLY! There is no problem if you do Theory/Prac from either Trinity, ABRSM or LCM. All their Grade exams have QCA recognition. Trinity does not require prac candidates attempting Grade 6, 7 or 8 to necessarily passed Grade 5 Theory of Music. Best wishes!
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Posted: Tue, 30/12/08 16:46pm By leeds230 |
Re: Private music teaching
another quick question - could i study for and take the grade 5 theory through ABRSM and then the electric organ exam through trinity or vice versa? the only reason i ask is that the books for the theory with ABRSM are slightly cheaper and money being as it is with everyone at the moment, the more money i can save the better. i know its a bit of a cheeky question but could you answer it for me please?
thanks
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Posted: Tue, 30/12/08 12:53pm By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
Welcome and all good wishes for a good 2009! best wishes for your ATCL too.
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Posted: Tue, 30/12/08 12:18pm By leeds230 |
Re: Private music teaching
Thanks for your reply.
You've hit the nail on the head as to what it is that i need - it's not so much the skill of my playing i need to have proof of, i feel it's my ability to teach. I'm not confident in whether i have the ability to teach or not and therefore feel that i would be better off doing some kind of qualification to help me learn exactly how to teach people of all ages and ranges of skill.
It sounds as though the Trinity diploma could be better for me as i want to be able to do something with my music as soon as possible and have made it my new year's resolution to do it in 2009. I have always felt that ABRSM is very intense so if the Trinity exams etc are not so intense as such then i do think that may be better for me. As long as i can get something which proves to me and my pupils etc that i can teach, i will be much happier.
Thanks again
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Posted: Tue, 30/12/08 12:14pm By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
Sorry for the few typos in the earlier reply. One more imp thing: The DipABRSM has a "QUICK STUDY" component (The candidate gets 5 mins to prepare the quick study piece.) If Playing at Sight/Sight Reading is not really your forte (for the DipABRSM the sight reading is a proper piece...i think at Grade 6 standard....but pl check with the syllabus), you should EITHER work hard at developing this important and useful skill OR choose to do the DipLCM or ATCL (Teaching dip) which does not have such a component.
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Posted: Tue, 30/12/08 12:05pm By ivanmus |
Re: Private music teaching
Hi, I know where you are coming from as I felt pretty much the same when I began teaching practical music some years ago. I did the DipABRSM (Piano Teaching) several years after I acquired the LTCL (Performance) and AMusTCL....by which time my playing had indeed become very, very rusty! It took me probably 4 months to prepare for the DipABRSM (I had no tutor to guide me, so it was self preparation and self study all the way.)
After passing the exam fairly well, I discovered the areas of strength and my weaknesses - in my knowledge and teaching strategies. It was then, that I decided to once again prepare on my own and appear for the ATCL in Piano teaching. The ATCL then, had 3 Units (from 2009, it will have only 2 Units). I did the 2nd diploma in teaching because I needed to know for myself that I had grown as a teacher. I needed this validation of my skills and abilities...just to be sure that I was doing the right thing (but not to prove to others though).
It does not matter which Diploma one does; Trinity, ABRSM and LCM diplomas are recognized qualifications (all are accredited by QCA, UK) - all are suitable for private practice (not that one needs a dip to practice anyway!, some excellent teachers are unlettered!!). These qualifications do not howver have QTS (Qualified Teacher Status - to teach in local schools in the UK).
The DipABRSM and DipLCM have small 'performance' (or 'demonstration' components..and if one is rusty as I am (essentially because I stopped regular prac eversince I started teaching Sociology at college)...then one has to get down to SERIOUS INTENSIVE practice for the performance sections/components of the diploma. If you are pretty good in your playing skills, then this should be no prob anyway!
The DipABRSM does not have a component for 'live' teaching, though my examiner and I did some 'role play' anyway.
The ATCL Instrumental teaching diploma does not need you to "perform" in a "teaching diploma" since the diploma is essentially about ones teaching philosophy, approach, strategies, planning, execution, feedback mechanisms, healthy practices. But for this diploma, you should have started teaching a few pupils - as you would need to write case studies of select pupils as part of your Unit 1 (Submitted materials) and in Unit 2 you actually do a Llive 'teaching' session with one of your pupils.
You and others who NEED some help could actually email me (ivanmus@rediffmail.com) ...NO PROB AND NO FEE...for some books I could suggest and preparation tips too.
I must admit that my real life college teaching experiences AND the BEd degree (with special methods in English and Geography teaching!) that I have - were useful while preparing for both teaching diplomas (e.g. for Lesson Planning, writing Lesson Objectives/learning outcomes etc). Those who have not received a BEd or PGCE(Music) or BMusEd may need to read up a bit in areas of Teaching Methodologies, Educational Psychology, Philosophy of Education - to develop some background. I am sure examienrs will not quiz you on Educational Theory...as they are more interested in ONE'S APPROACH to teaching and practical applications.
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